Mussolini, Hitler, Franco, Horthy, Antonescu all led fascist states in 20th century Europe. And, of course , the two first listed led their nations against us in World War II. How did fascism arise? What were its central ideas and intentions? Was war essential to the fascist program? How and why did the populations of Germany, Italy, Hungary, Spain and Romania support their fascist regimes? Why and how does fascism persist in contemporary political life. These are some of he questions addressed, in 2006, by our two guests both of whom rank very high among the modern historians of the fascist states.